March Madness (not really)

Well, we’ve had some activity.

First up is the criminal case against Ed & Joel.  On January 21st, Joel finished entering his guilty plea. The court document confirms that Joel did suffer some kind of illness at the last hearing, but doesn’t go into any details.  It also mentioned that Joel has been taking his prescribed medication for the 72 hours prior to this hearing, but and I’ll repeat that – BUT – he felt well enough to proceed.  Is that a typo or does Joel’s medication have some nasty side effects?  Anyone’s guess.  In any event, the boys were supposed to be sentenced on March 30th, but at the request of the US attorney, it was moved to July 20th.  Apparently, the US needs more time to determine the extent of damage that these two have caused in order to figure out a fair sentencing recommendation.  Understandable.

On the receivership front, the receiver’s submitted a proposal for clawbacks.  Bullet lists are awesome:

  • NASI may have actually owned 238 ATMs, but the investors owned none.   Not one.  NASI didn’t actually “sell” any of their ATMs to investors.  I once had this theory that they “sold” real ATMs to multiple investors under the assumption that they could still pull a profit per ATM and that they got greedy and it spiraled out of control.  Well, that theory was crap.  They out and out sold their victims nothing right from the start.
  • Generally, anyone who invested in 2009 and before received more than they invested.
  • The receiver mentioned a seven year period several times in the filing and sure enough on page 15, it clearly states: Accordingly, the maximum “reach back” period for recoverable fraudulent transfers is seven years from the date a complaint is filed.
  • The largest 20 investors profited $17 million in the seven year period.  This is a preliminary number and is subject to change.  That’s $850k average per investor, for those playing the home game.
  • NASI paid people $500 to $1000 per ATM as a referral fee.  Preliminary analysis of 16 sales agents showed $9 million paid out in referral fees. That’s a little over half a million per sales person, average and between 9,000 and 18,000 ATMs sold by paid referral.
  • Because the receivership needs as many net winners to settle up quickly so that they don’t start losing potential recovery sources to the seven year limit and to minimize the legal fees, he’s sweetening the pot for the winners to settle quickly.  There’ll be letters sent, so you’ll know if you’re one of these lucky folks.
    You can settle for 70% of your profits if you pay in one lump sum or 75% if you pay in installments over the next 12 months.  It’s only available to the first 30 people to accept the offer or until the receiver files a complaint.  After that, it increases to 80% of your profits and the 60 day clock starts counting down.  When it hits zero, the litigation starts.
  • The receiver is requesting that the litigation for clawbacks all remain in one court with one judge who is familiar with the case so we don’t up with contrary rulings, general confusion and apocalyptic legal fees.
  • An example of the letter investors will receive was posted at the end of the document.

Keep in mind that the receiver is still trying to piece things together, so I’m not sure when these letters will get sent out.

And now we move onto the fees from the receiver and the attorney.  Good times.  The receiver billed over $185k in fees and $14k in expenses from 9/30 to 12/31.  80%  of the fees will be paid and 100% of the expenses (they are out of pocket, after all).  I think we all knew it would be big, but it still took me by surprise.  As the receiver states, the boys kept shitty records.  And they had a bookkeeper.  How… what was she… Ugh.  I can’t even.  The good news is that these kinds of things always start expensive and get cheaper as you approach the finish line.  The receiver points this out and I can tell you first hand that it even works out that way on a smaller scale.

Another thing that raised the bill was the rubber checks.   I believe my last post pointed out the tedious hair-pulling task of figuring out that kind of cluster-bunny.  The receiver also points out that these rubber checks were often reissued with the same stupid number.  How did they manage that? A check can only bounce twice before the bank stamps it “Do not redeposit,” so did they have multiple copies of checks with the same number sequence?  Did they use a program like VersaCheck to print their own checks (and by “print their own”, I mean instead of ordering checks from the bank they just print theirs), and therefore also had a printer capable of printing the MICR line at the bottom?  That takes magnetic ink.  This thing keeps getting weirder.

As for the attorney, the fees were $113k in fees and $9k in expenses for the same period of time. Like the receiver, he’ll get paid 80% of the fees, and 100% of the expenses.  Also like the receiver, the fees drop over time.  I expect they’ll pick back up once they initiate clawbacks.

Anway, I’m cutting this one short since I have to get up for work at 3am and there’s nothing juicy enough in the Attorney’s bill to report on.  Except $3 for text editing.  It made me laugh.

 

11 comments

  1. thanks for keeping us updated..for those of us who got into the Game in the last five years, we are probably out most of our money but hopefully there will be some settlement…

    1. I sincerely hope that a good chunk of the net winners can afford to return the money and do so. Those that hide their assets in an attempt to get out of paying anything back should consider themselves only marginally better than the thieves that gave them the money.

  2. We will see nothing. The receiver will eat up all the money recovered. There should be a Government body within the SEC that does the work of the receiver for free and all monies recovered and then return it to the investors. This is just a legal way for the receiver to make a living and a very good one off the back of us that lost a lot of money.
    If you see one cent on your dollar, I would be surprised.

    1. The major problem with having the receivership done in-house using taxpayer dollars is that the taxpayers would not tolerate paying to recoup funds for someone who 1) invested what they couldn’t afford to lose 2) failed to do proper due diligence. I’m not trying to engage in victim shaming because a victim is a victim no matter how you slice it, but you’d be hard pressed to get that bit of legislation passed. Hell, victims of out-and-out financial theft (bookkeeper skimmed, etc) have to pay to discover the extent of the theft (especially when the thief basically nukes 90% of the incriminating evidence from orbit).

      1. They use taxpayer dollars on a BS war and to collect taxes. Your point is for some dumb idiot. This receivership could go on for years netting them millions of dollars. Do you work for the receiver?

        1. Then write to your representatives about getting receiverships funded by taxpayer dollars instead of victim dollars and do post your progress about it here. Please don’t continue discussing other kinds of politics on this blog. I’ve seen it turn otherwise civilized and intelligent forums into bloodbaths. Especially with the election cycle powering up.

          According to the press release, the losses total over a million dollars (which of course is a tentative number). NASI only had less than half a million in the accounts when the accounts were frozen. Net ATM income averaged about $42k per month – during the busiest shopping season of the year. Without any receivership and legal billings it would take victims approximately 200 years to be made whole. That would also not include any clawbacks.

          So, let’s operate in the hypothetical free receivership zone (also, free legal, since that’s being billed as well). NASI’s bank account would only net $0.005/$1 for the victims. The preliminaries on the top twenty winners are about $17m. Assuming they take the first deal and pay up front, that’s $12.75m or $0.1275/$1. Who knows about the other investors, so we can’t even look at that right now. The sale of the ATM business can help, but we have no way of appraising the value of what they could get for that.

          I don’t think it’s fair to place the blame for a lack of funds to pay victims on the receiver. According to the billings and the estimated losses, his billings only account for $0.001845/$1. A fraction of a penny per dollar of the losses. His billings are also supposed to go down over time. On a lark, I had input them into a spreadsheet just to track the numbers. October was $75k, November $57k, and December $52k so they are. Once they’re done rebuilding the books, I’m thinking that we’ll see a dramatic drop but I’m interested to see how much if any. The legal fees account for $113k. I hadn’t broken that down per month, so I can’t say how it’s trending (but I totally will now). Again, a fraction of a penny per dollar.

          And I do not work for the receiver. And before it’s brought up, I also have no known connection to the receiver. I apologize if that last part sounds weasel-worded, but the financial scam forum that called NASI out on this years ago is frequented by government agents and the like. It’s always possible that I’ve had some contact with someone involved with the receivership and did not know it.

          I’m quite interested in how much of a bite the receiver legal fees take, so I’m going to try to update the blog with the figures and trends. Especially since plenty of people are eagerly awaiting the next round of reports and I’ve nothing else notable to post.

        2. I forgot the referral clawbacks. That’s $9m or $0.09 on the dollar.

          Also, while trying to locate a different bit of info, I realized I was off on how much they can get from the clawbacks. It’s 70% if if you pay up front, so the amount available is actually a bit lower per dollar.

  3. I hear the new sentencing date is sometime in November. I’m wondering who asked for the continuance.

    1. November 16th, actually. Joel’s lawyer tried to get it pushed to December but the gov’t contested it. There was some back and forth and then the court settled on November.

      There will be blog posts about the sentencing, the latest receiver’s report, and the new billings later this week. Work has been hellish and my hours are all over the place, which makes it difficult to stay awake long enough to accomplish anything of note.

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